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Re: Ocean Heat causing Tornadoes

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http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/07/an-era-of-tornado…

An Era of Tornadoes: How Global Warming Causes Wild Winds    -   The

Atlantic

Destruction in Missouri and elsewhere offers a taste of increasingly

extreme weather.

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Oh really?

There Is No Observed Trend To More Extreme Weather Since 1871

The latest research belies the idea that storms are getting more extreme..

The project’s initial findings, published last month, show no evidence of an
intensifying weather trend.

Researchers have yet to find evidence of more-extreme weather patterns over
the period from 1871 to the present, contrary to what the models predict.

Feb 10 2011

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870442220457613030099212…

QUOTE:

Global-warming alarmists insist that economic activity is the problem, when
the available evidence shows it to be part of the solution.

QUOTE:

The London-based Global Warming Policy Foundation charges that British
authorities are so committed to the notion that Britain’s future will be
warmer that they have failed to plan for winter storms that have hit the
country three years running.

Last week a severe storm froze Dallas under a sheet of ice, just in time to
disrupt the plans of the tens of thousands of American football fans
descending on the city for the Super Bowl.

On the other side of the globe, Cyclone Yasi slammed northeastern Australia,
destroying homes and crops and displacing hundreds of thousands of people.

Some climate alarmists would have us believe that these storms are yet
another baleful consequence of man-made CO2 emissions.

In addition to the latest weather events, they also point to recent cyclones
in Burma, last winter’s fatal chills in Nepal and Bangladesh, December’s
blizzards in Britain, and every other drought, typhoon and unseasonable heat
wave around the world.

But is it true?

To answer that question, you need to understand whether recent weather
trends are extreme by historical standards.

The Twentieth Century Reanalysis Project is the latest attempt to find out,
using super-computers to generate a dataset of global atmospheric
circulation from 1871 to the present.

As it happens, the project’s initial findings, published last month, show no
evidence of an intensifying weather trend. "In the climate models, the
extremes get more extreme as we move into a doubled CO2 world in 100 years,"
atmospheric scientist Gilbert Compo, one of the researchers on the project,
tells me from his office at the University of Colorado, Boulder. "So we were
surprised that none of the three major indices of climate variability that
we used show a trend of increased circulation going back to 1871."

In other words, researchers have yet to find evidence of more-extreme
weather patterns over the period, contrary to what the models predict.
"There’s no data-driven answer yet to the question of how human activity has
affected extreme weather," adds Roger Pielke Jr., another University of
Colorado climate researcher.

Some climate alarmists claim that cyclones, such as Cyclone Yasi, are a
result of man-made CO2 emissions.

We do know that carbon dioxide and other gases trap and re-radiate heat. We
also know that humans have emitted ever-more of these gases since the
Industrial Revolution.

What we don’t know is exactly how sensitive the climate is to increases in
these gases versus other possible factors�solar variability, oceanic
currents, Pacific heating and cooling cycles, planets’ gravitational and
magnetic oscillations, and so on.

Given the unknowns, it’s possible that even if we spend trillions of
dollars, and forgo trillions more in future economic growth, to cut carbon
emissions to pre-industrial levels, the climate will continue to change�as
it always has.

That’s not to say we’re helpless.

There is at least one climate lesson that we can draw from the recent
weather: Whatever happens, prosperity and preparedness help.

North Texas’s ice storm wreaked havoc and left hundreds of football fans
stranded, cold, and angry. But thanks to modern infrastructure, 21st century
health care, and stockpiles of magnesium chloride and snow plows, the storm
caused no reported deaths and Dallas managed to host the big game on Sunday.

Compare that outcome to the 55 people who reportedly died of pneumonia,
respiratory problems and other cold-related illnesses in Bangladesh and
Nepal when temperatures dropped to just above freezing last winter.

Even rich countries can be caught off guard:

Witness the thousands stranded when Heathrow skimped on de-icing supplies
and let five inches of snow ground flights for two days before Christmas.
Britain’s GDP shrank by 0.5% in the fourth quarter of 2010, for which the
Office of National Statistics mostly blames "the bad weather."

The London-based Global Warming Policy Foundation charges that British
authorities are so committed to the notion that Britain’s future will be
warmer that they have failed to plan for winter storms that have hit the
country three years running.

A sliver of the billions that British taxpayers spend on trying to control
their climes could have bought them more of the supplies that helped Dallas
recover more quickly. And, with a fraction of that sliver of prosperity,
more Bangladeshis and Nepalis could have acquired the antibiotics and
respirators to survive their cold spell.

A comparison of cyclones Yasi and Nargis tells a similar story: As
devastating as Yasi has been, Australia’s infrastructure, medicine, and
emergency protocols meant the Category 5 storm has killed only one person so
far. Australians are now mulling all the ways they could have better
protected their property and economy.

But if they feel like counting their blessings, they need only look to the
similar cyclone that hit the Irrawaddy Delta in 2008. Burma’s military
regime hadn’t allowed for much of an economy before the cyclone, but Nargis
destroyed nearly all the Delta had. Afterwards, the junta blocked foreign
aid workers from delivering needed water purification and medical supplies.
In the end, the government let Nargis kill more than 130,000 people.

Global-warming alarmists insist that economic activity is the problem, when
the available evidence show it to be part of the solution.

We may not be able to do anything about the weather, extreme or otherwise.

But we can make sure we have the resources to deal with it when it comes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870442220457613030099212…

EXTRACT FROM ABSTRACT:

Some surprising results are already evident.

For instance, the long-term trends of indices representing the North
Atlantic Oscillation, the tropical Pacific Walker Circulation, and the
Pacific�North American pattern are weak or non-existent over the full period
of record.

The long-term trends of zonally averaged precipitation minus evaporation
also differ in character from those in climate model simulations of the
twentieth century.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/qj.776/full

http://www.rmets.org/news/detail.php?ID=932

Warmest Regards

B0nnz0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

"A major problem has been the co-option of climate science by politics,
ambition, greed, and what seems to be a hereditary human need for a
righteous cause."

"What better cause than "saving" the planet, especially if one can get
ample, secure funding at the same time?"

William Happer, Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics, Princeton
University.

"The claim is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8�K in
about 150 years, which, if true, means to me  that the temperature has been
amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely
improved in this ‘warming’ period,".

Nobel Laureate Dr. Ivar Giaever:

"If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it’s not going to tip
now due to mankind. The planet has a natural thermostat"

Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, Professor of Meteorology MIT,
Former IPCC Lead Author

"A core problem is that science has given way to ideology. The scientific
method has been dispensed with, or abused, to serve the myth of man-made
global warming."

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Computer models are built in an almost backwards fashion: The goal is to
show evidence of AGW, and the "scientists" go to work to produce such a
result. When even these models fail to show what advocates want, the data
and interpretations are "fudged" to bring about the desired result"

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Ocean acidification looks suspiciously like a back-up plan by the
environmental pressure groups in case the climate fails to warm: another try
at condemning fossil fuels!"

http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/threat-ocean-acidification-great…

Before attacking hypothetical problems, let us first solve the real problems
that threaten humanity. One single water pump at an equivalent cost of a
couple of solar panels can indeed spare hundreds of Sahel women the daily
journey to the spring and spare many infections and lives.

Martin De Vlieghere, philosopher

"All it takes to find oneself called a ‘denier’ is to seek a sense of
proportion about environmental problems"

Mark Lynas, The God Species

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Re: "Expert": Utah Winter Temperatures To Rise Ten Degrees – AFTER THEY STOP PLUMMETING!

In message <4ec5a…@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, AGWFRAUD
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>Utah winter temperatures have been dropping at a rate of 30 degrees per

>century, so it make perfect sense (in the psychotic world of climate

>science) to predict an increase of 10 degrees and no snowpack this century.

Another cherry picked location?  The BEST paper said that 1/3 of the
weather stations showed cooling and 2/3 showed warming.

Guess what that means overall?

>Utah had their snowiest winter on record last year.

Snow levels are dependent on *both* water content in the atmosphere and
the temperature.  It can be cold and dry and it won’t snow, slightly
warmer and wet and it will snow.


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Re: Can Juliar Save Her Country From This NON Rise In Sea Level?

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>The closest tide gauge to Canberra is at Port Kembla, and shows no change in

>sea level during this millennium.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/sea-level-rise-intermediate.htm

"Sea levels are measured by a variety of methods that show close
agreement – sediment cores, tidal gauges, satellite measurements. What
they find is sea level rise has been steadily accelerating over the past
century. "


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Just as GFC2 starts to bite…

"SKILLED workers coming to Australia could have their visa applications
fast-tracked, under changes to the 457 visa system.

        …

‘This will continue to ensure that the 457 program is responsive to the
economic cycle …’ [sez Bowen]

        …

The use of 457 visas is *increasing*, with 54,360 granted in 2010-11 – a
jump of 38 per cent compared with the previous period".

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/government-moves-to-fa…

Great timing, Labor idiots, speed up the processing and double the
duration just when there is likely to be a downturn.

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Re: "Expert": Utah Winter Temperatures To Rise Ten Degrees – AFTER THEY STOP PLUMMETING!

In message <4ec5a…@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, AGWFRAUD
<FRAUD@FRAUD.?.invalid> writes

>Utah winter temperatures have been dropping at a rate of 30 degrees per

>century, so it make perfect sense (in the psychotic world of climate

>science) to predict an increase of 10 degrees and no snowpack this century.

Another cherry picked location?  The BEST paper said that 1/3 of the
weather stations showed cooling and 2/3 showed warming.

Guess what that means overall?

>Utah had their snowiest winter on record last year.

Snow levels are dependent on *both* water content in the atmosphere and
the temperature.  It can be cold and dry and it won’t snow, slightly
warmer and wet and it will snow.


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Re: Can Juliar Save Her Country From This NON Rise In Sea Level?

In message <4ec5b3c…@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, AGWFRAUD
<FRAUD@FRAUD.?.invalid> writes

>The closest tide gauge to Canberra is at Port Kembla, and shows no change in

>sea level during this millennium.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/sea-level-rise-intermediate.htm

"Sea levels are measured by a variety of methods that show close
agreement – sediment cores, tidal gauges, satellite measurements. What
they find is sea level rise has been steadily accelerating over the past
century. "


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Re: "Expert": Utah Winter Temperatures To Rise Ten Degrees – AFTER THEY STOP PLUMMETING!

In message <4ec5a…@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, AGWFRAUD
<FRAUD@FRAUD.?.invalid> writes

>Utah winter temperatures have been dropping at a rate of 30 degrees per

>century, so it make perfect sense (in the psychotic world of climate

>science) to predict an increase of 10 degrees and no snowpack this century.

Another cherry picked location?  The BEST paper said that 1/3 of the
weather stations showed cooling and 2/3 showed warming.

Guess what that means overall?

>Utah had their snowiest winter on record last year.

Snow levels are dependent on *both* water content in the atmosphere and
the temperature.  It can be cold and dry and it won’t snow, slightly
warmer and wet and it will snow.


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Re: Can Juliar Save Her Country From This NON Rise In Sea Level?

In message <4ec5b3c…@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, AGWFRAUD
<FRAUD@FRAUD.?.invalid> writes

>The closest tide gauge to Canberra is at Port Kembla, and shows no change in

>sea level during this millennium.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/sea-level-rise-intermediate.htm

"Sea levels are measured by a variety of methods that show close
agreement – sediment cores, tidal gauges, satellite measurements. What
they find is sea level rise has been steadily accelerating over the past
century. "


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Re: The Polar Bears Might Not Survive This Climate Disaster!

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>According to GISS, temperatures in Western Greenland (supposedly the fastest

>warming place on Earth) have been declining for the past 90 years.

The word "global" in "global warming" means the whole planet, not a
single location.


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Some troubling aspects of Gillard's uranium push

On 16/11/2011 7:56 PM, Gillard=Rudd in a frock wrote:

>> Comment:

>> >  Amazing, so Rudd is*in*  *India*  and he’s not aware of the change in

>> >  policy – is she aware of how stupid that would make her foreign minister

>> >  look?

> Of course she is.

"Ms Gillard says selling uranium to India for peaceful purposes will
create economic opportunities and strengthen bilateral relations.

But Ms Bligh said Queensland would not lift its ban on mining uranium,
and *any* federal policy change would not alter that.

        …

Ms Bligh told reporters the state already had enough mining projects on
its plate and later warned the mineral could be used to make weapons of
mass destruction".

http://www.smh.com.au/queensland/queensland-wont-cash-in-on-indian-ur…

Indeed. Safe, *peaceful* nuclear power is based on *Thorium* – and India
has plenty of it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium#Reserves

So why the push for uranium?

Is Gillard just playing politics, putting the boot into her rival, or is
she serious?

Either way, she just passion-fingered again. Not only embarrassing our
foreign minister and Australia, but also announcing the change on the
eve of Obama’s visit, on the *same* *day* as an Indian ballistic missile
test and *without* *consideration* of the fact that uranium has limited
use for *safe* nuclear power generation.

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