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Re: Snowy Winters Are COLD Winters

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:11:47 +1100, "AGWDECEIT" <DECEIT@DECEIT> wrote:

>Snowy Winters Are COLD Winters

CO2 traps heat near the earths surface which causes the average

surface temperature to become warmer and high altitude air to become

colder.

If the surface is warmer, more moisture can evaporate to form more

snow and if high altitude air is colder, the snow that is formed may

also be colder.

So increasing CO2 may cause larger falls of colder snow.

That would imply warmer average temperature but colder temperature

when snow falls.

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Re: Antarctic Temperature Trend Shows A Slight Cooling, Bad Luck "Fudger" Hansen!

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:21:24 +1100, "AGWDECEIT" <DECEIT@DECEIT> wrote:

>Antarctic Temperature Trend Shows A Slight Cooling

>Nov 12 2011

>http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt

It is interesting to compare the Antarctic and the Arctic.

This graph shows that Arctic sea ice is continuing to melt, with no

let up in sight:

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.png

In contrast this graph shows a slight increase in the amount of

Antarctic sea ice:

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/s_plot_hires.png

But on balance, the Arctic is loosing sea ice much faster than the

Antarctic is gaining.

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Re: 40 Degree Water And An Open Sea At The North Pole

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:04:52 +1100, "AGWDECEIT" <DECEIT@DECEIT> wrote:

>40 Degree Water And An Open Sea At The North Pole

>Relax,, that was in 1853!

>Nov 15 2011

>http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3244756

The article says:

"…..Kane, when frozen up in the winter of 1853,

sent two men overland, toward the north, and

they approached within 518 miles of the pole.

They there saw from the summit of a cliff, an

immense, open, iceless sea…."

But they did not confirm that open water extended to or near the pole.

The approximate distance to the horizon from an observer close to the

Earth’s surface is given by:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon#Distance_to_the_horizon

    d = 1.323 SquareRoot(h)

where d is in miles and h is height above sea level in feet.

So even if the cliff was 400 feet high, they would have only been able

to see a maximum distance of about 26.46 miles.

But they were 518 miles from the pole.

>The Arctic is the fastest warming place on Earth, which is why it is colder
>there now than it was 160 years ago!

Unfortunately the above article doesn’t provide reliable evidence that

the Arctic was warmer 160 years ago.

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Re: Shock Global Cooling News: Iceland Almost As Warm As It Was 70 Years Ago

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:56:23 +1100, "AGWDECEIT" <DECEIT@DECEIT> wrote:

>Shock Global Cooling News: Iceland Almost As Warm As It Was 70 Years Ago

>Nov 15 2011

http://www.fisheries.is/ecosystem/oceanography/climate-variability/

The primary weather systems in the vicinity of Iceland are the

Icelandic Low and the Greenland High. The relative strength of those

two systems greatly influences the climate over the Northern

hemisphere. The track of the low as it traverses the Atlantic is also

of importance, e.g. whether it goes west or east of Iceland. This,

together with the contrasting water masses occupying the Icelandic

waters and their varying distributions, makes the climate in Iceland

and its waters highly variable. These factors have for centuries

produced natural climate variability. In recent years, it has become

increasingly evident that the planet is warming due to the release of

greenhouse gases to the atmosphere from human activity. To separate

these two kinds of climate variability at a certain location is very

difficult, especially in a region of large natural variability as in

Iceland……

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Re: Sea Level Continues To Plummet At 5mm Per Year

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:26:10 +1100, "AGWDECEIT" <DECEIT@DECEIT> wrote:

>Novr 15 2011

>ftp://ftp.aviso.oceanobs.com/

>New data is available, and Envisat continues to show sea level declining at
>a rate of more than 5mm/year since the beginning of 2010.

There is a graph here that shows the decline.

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-262

>This is due to the record melting in Greenland over the last two years that
>we keep hearing about – which is filling up the oceans with anti-water!

Probably more a case that warmer oceans evaporate faster, resulting in

more rain and so moving water from the oceans to places where it can

accumulate on land.

Eg Thailand is current flooded and not so long ago, following a decade

of drought, Australia was absorbing water like a sponge.

Greater precipitation might also make glaciers to grow thicker, while

their termini continue to melt.

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Re: 185,000 US Forest Fires In 1939 Compared With 72,000 In 2010, So Much For Global Warming

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:45:07 +1100, "AGWDECEIT" <DECEIT@DECEIT> wrote:

>185,000 US Forest Fires In 1939 Compared With 72,000 In 2010, So Much For
>Global Warming

There was probably a much greater area of forest in 1939.

To make a fair comparison we would need to know the number of fires

per unit area of forest.

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Re: Snowy Winters Are COLD Winters

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:11:47 +1100, "AGWDECEIT" <DECEIT@DECEIT> wrote:

>Snowy Winters Are COLD Winters

CO2 traps heat near the earths surface which causes the average

surface temperature to become warmer and high altitude air to become

colder.

If the surface is warmer, more moisture can evaporate to form more

snow and if high altitude air is colder, the snow that is formed may

also be colder.

So increasing CO2 may cause larger falls of colder snow.

That would imply warmer average temperature but colder temperature

when snow falls.

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Re: Antarctic Temperature Trend Shows A Slight Cooling, Bad Luck "Fudger" Hansen!

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:21:24 +1100, "AGWDECEIT" <DECEIT@DECEIT> wrote:

>Antarctic Temperature Trend Shows A Slight Cooling

>Nov 12 2011

>http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt

It is interesting to compare the Antarctic and the Arctic.

This graph shows that Arctic sea ice is continuing to melt, with no

let up in sight:

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.png

In contrast this graph shows a slight increase in the amount of

Antarctic sea ice:

http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/s_plot_hires.png

But on balance, the Arctic is loosing sea ice much faster than the

Antarctic is gaining.

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Re: 40 Degree Water And An Open Sea At The North Pole

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:04:52 +1100, "AGWDECEIT" <DECEIT@DECEIT> wrote:

>40 Degree Water And An Open Sea At The North Pole

>Relax,, that was in 1853!

>Nov 15 2011

>http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3244756

The article says:

"…..Kane, when frozen up in the winter of 1853,

sent two men overland, toward the north, and

they approached within 518 miles of the pole.

They there saw from the summit of a cliff, an

immense, open, iceless sea…."

But they did not confirm that open water extended to or near the pole.

The approximate distance to the horizon from an observer close to the

Earth’s surface is given by:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon#Distance_to_the_horizon

    d = 1.323 SquareRoot(h)

where d is in miles and h is height above sea level in feet.

So even if the cliff was 400 feet high, they would have only been able

to see a maximum distance of about 26.46 miles.

But they were 518 miles from the pole.

>The Arctic is the fastest warming place on Earth, which is why it is colder
>there now than it was 160 years ago!

Unfortunately the above article doesn’t provide reliable evidence that

the Arctic was warmer 160 years ago.

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Re: Shock Global Cooling News: Iceland Almost As Warm As It Was 70 Years Ago

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:56:23 +1100, "AGWDECEIT" <DECEIT@DECEIT> wrote:

>Shock Global Cooling News: Iceland Almost As Warm As It Was 70 Years Ago

>Nov 15 2011

http://www.fisheries.is/ecosystem/oceanography/climate-variability/

The primary weather systems in the vicinity of Iceland are the

Icelandic Low and the Greenland High. The relative strength of those

two systems greatly influences the climate over the Northern

hemisphere. The track of the low as it traverses the Atlantic is also

of importance, e.g. whether it goes west or east of Iceland. This,

together with the contrasting water masses occupying the Icelandic

waters and their varying distributions, makes the climate in Iceland

and its waters highly variable. These factors have for centuries

produced natural climate variability. In recent years, it has become

increasingly evident that the planet is warming due to the release of

greenhouse gases to the atmosphere from human activity. To separate

these two kinds of climate variability at a certain location is very

difficult, especially in a region of large natural variability as in

Iceland……

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