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Peer review? We don't need no stinkin peer review.

Grey Literature: IPCC Insiders Speak Candidly
January 21, 2011

In February 2008 Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), addressed a committee of the North
Carolina legislature. He declared to these assembled law-makers (as he
has in many other contexts before and since), that:

  .we carry out an assessment of climate change based on peer-reviewed
literature, so everything that we look at and take into account in our
assessments has to carry [the] credibility of peer-reviewed
publications, we don’t settle for anything less than that. [bold added]

Someone needs to tell the committee it was seriously misled. Last April
a citizen audit coordinated by yours truly found that nearly one-third
of the references in the IPCC’s 2007 report cite non-peer-reviewed
sources (often referred to as "grey literature").

More recently, I’ve been examining the answers IPCC insiders provided to
a questionnaire distributed by an InterAcademy Council committee that
investigated the IPCC last year. These answers make it abundantly clear
numerous individuals knew that Pachauri’s public statements were at odds
with the facts.

The quotes below are drawn from this three-megabyte 678-page PDF. The
names of those who provided these remarks were removed prior to the
document being made public. All bolding has been added by me.

more http://tinyurl.com/4rtctxb

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Re: Inaction in the face of global warming imperils our survival

That was a hoot.

I love it!

right in the middle:

<<< Even if carbon dioxide isn’t contributing to rising
temperatures,>>>

   So IOW we don’t know for sure what is causing the rising temps BUT
BY GOD WE BETTER DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

What a bunch of loosers!…this is the third January in a row with
record low temps……Yeah I know it’s just weather

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Re: Europe Begins to Run Short of Water

On Jan 22, 2:23 pm, Harry Hope <riv…@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

- — -

> http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=54203

> Europe Begins to Run Short of Water

> By Pavol Stracansky

> PRAGUE, Jan 22, 2011 (IPS) –

> Half of the Czech Republic s population could face water shortages
> because of climate change, a top climate change expert has warned.

> The country has become one of the driest in the EU, according to local
> media, and climatologists say the land, and crucial underground water
> supplies, are drying up.

> Professor Michal Marek, head of the EU-funded CzechGlobe climate
> change research project, told IPS:

> "The Czech Republic is already seeing the effects of climate change in
> more frequent extreme weather events and changes in biodiversity.

> "But possibly the most important change is in the increasing drying
> out of the landscape as drier periods get longer and are followed by
> bursts of intense rainfall which the dry soil cannot absorb. This has
> a very significant effect on underground water supplies."

> Climatologists and meteorologists in central Europe have said that the
> region is seeing more and more extreme weather including long periods
> of dry and hot weather in the summer, severe flooding and bitter
> winter weather.

> While not all parts of central and Eastern Europe will necessarily
> have the same problems as the Czech Republic with underground water
> supplies because of local geological conditions and other factors,
> heavy rains falling on ground dried out by long periods of hot weather
> and unable to absorb water can increase the risk of flooding.

> Poland, The Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Austria and Germany
> have all been hit by devastating floods in the last two years.

> Summer and winter temperature records have also regularly been broken
> over the last decade.

> Weathermen in Slovakia have begun speculating that weather zones
> which cover the region are moving steadily north:

> that the climate seen typically in northern Italy including long,
> hot, dry summers and bursts of heavy rains – will move a few hundred
> kilometres north to cover much of Austria, Slovakia and parts of the
> Czech Republic.

> In turn the climate associated with those countries will move and
> bring with it different weather to parts of Germany and Poland.

> With these changes rainfall patterns will also be different and in the
> Czech Republic, hydrologists say that such changes are already being
> observed.

> Climatologists warn that such change could pose a dramatic problem for
> the country s water resources.

> In 2006 the Czech Hydrometeorological Institute said research
> indicated that by the middle of this century some of the country s
> rivers could have dried out completely.

> Some local ecological groups say that by 2050 there may not be enough
> water to meet the population s basic needs.

> Some Czech towns highly dependent on underground sources for water
> supplies say that they are already feeling the effects of depleted
> resources.

> In towns in the southwest of the country residents and local officials
> say that in recent years they have been faced with water shortages
> after just a few weeks of dry weather, and some smaller settlements
> have to rely on water brought in from other parts of the country.

> The Czech Hydrometeorological Institute, which monitors underground
> water sources, has identified areas across the north and south of the
> country which are also suffering from falling underground water
> levels.

> Local firms drilling outdoor wells for homes have said that 30 years
> ago they would not need to drill more than eight metres into the
> ground to find water, but that now they regularly need to go to depths
> of 30 metres.

> While experts say that water levels in underground water sources
> depend on a variety of factors including local geological conditions
> and other water flows, rainfall plays a significant role in
> replenishing underground supplies.

> "It is one factor affecting underground supply of water but it is
> terribly important," said Professor Marek.

> Hydrologists say that there has been a marked change in rainfall
> patterns in recent years with overall rainfall levels being similar to
> the long-term past but precipitation being less frequent and,
> therefore, more intense.

> Anna Hrabankova, a hydrologist at the T. G. Masaryk Water Research
> Institute in Prague, told IPS:

> "Climate change is a reality. Rainfall is spread differently
> throughout the year now. The rhythms of rainfall here have changed."

> The Czech Republic, like neighbouring Poland and Slovakia, suffered
> severe flooding nationwide last year.

> It was the country s third period of devastating floods over the last
> 13 years.

> Climate change experts say that rising global temperatures will, in
> some places, lead to more intense rainfall over short periods.

> "Extreme weather, such as flooding and big summer storms, is becoming
> more frequent and this, I think, is a sign of the effects of climate
> change in the Czech Republic," Professor Marek told IPS.

> The situation with underground water sources in the Czech Republic is
> unlikely to improve in the near future.

> The Czech Hydrometeorological Institute s climate change department is
> predicting more weather extremes in the coming years with longer
> periods of hot weather followed by sudden heavy rainfall.

> Professor Marek said that he was pessimistic about the future effects
> of climate change on the country, especially water supplies.

> A report in Czech media this week claimed that 50 percent of Czechs
> the proportion of the population reliant on underground water supplies
> were facing water shortages because of falling underground water
> levels.

> Some hydrologists questioned the claim as being alarmist but Professor
> Marek told IPS:

> "I absolutely agree with this figure. It is completely realistic from
> my point of view, even though it would, of course, be a terrible
> situation.

> "Problems with water supplies will only get worse and will be the
> single biggest problem posed by climate change to affect the Czech
> Republic in the future, worse than changes to biodiversity or anything
> else."

> Ecological groups such as the Czech branch of Friends of the Earth,
> say that measures must be taken to ensure that water is not lost, such
> as reversing river courses which, over decades, have been artificially
> straightened and has left them less able to retain water.

> __________________________________

> Harry

Kinda like australia was supposed to be running out of water? LOL.

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Re: Extreme weather: the reality of a warming world

"Harry Hope" <riv…@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

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> http://www.globalpost.com/print/5611705

> January 22, 2011

> Extreme weather: the reality of a warming world

> By Solana Pyne

> RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil –

> http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/brazil/110120/climate-change-flood…
> Aerial view of damages in Poco Fundo, an isolated area in the state of
> Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Jan. 18, 2011. (Vanderlei Almeida/AFP/Getty
> Images) [1]

> In the past year, every continent except Antarctica has seen
> record-breaking floods.

ROTFLMAO

Yet the title of another warmie post reads "
Europe Begins to Run Short of Water"

AND BY THE SAME HAIRY HOPELESS NO LESS!

HEY HAIRY CAN’T YOU SEE THE CONTRADICTIONS IN YOUR WHACKO POSTINGS??

Are these warmie whackos for real???

Warmest Regards

B0nz0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

"If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it’s not going to tip
now due to mankind. The planet has a natural thermostat"

Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, Professor of Meteorology MIT,
Former IPCC Lead Author

"It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you
have, or how many of you there are, and certainly not how many papers your
side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is
wrong. Period."

Professor Richard Feynman, Nobel Laureate in Physics

"A core problem is that science has given way to ideology. The scientific
method has been dispensed with, or abused, to serve the myth of man-made
global warming."

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Computer models are built in an almost backwards fashion: The goal is to
show evidence of AGW, and the "scientists" go to work to produce such a
result. When even these models fail to show what advocates want, the data
and interpretations are "fudged" to bring about the desired result"

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Ocean acidification looks suspiciously like a back-up plan by the
environmental pressure groups in case the climate fails to warm: another try
at condemning fossil fuels!"

http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/threat-ocean-acidification-great…

Before attacking hypothetical problems, let us first solve the real problems
that threaten humanity. One single water pump at an equivalent cost of a
couple of solar panels can indeed spare hundreds of Sahel women the daily
journey to the spring and spare many infections and lives.

Martin De Vlieghere, philosopher

"The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that
it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of
mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible."

Bertrand Russell

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Re: Plants' global warming dilemma: climb to escape heat or stoop for water?

"gordo" <grmerr…@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:57:38 -0800 (PST), tunderbar
> <tdcom…@gmail.com> wrote:

>>On Jan 22, 10:22 pm, gordo <grmerr…@shaw.ca.remove> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:45:09 -0800 (PST), tunderbar

>>> <tdcom…@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On Jan 22, 5:02 am, Roger Coppock <rcopp…@adnc.com> wrote:
>>> >> [ . . . ]

>>> >> Over the 70-year span between data sets, California’s average
>>> >> temperature has risen 0.6 degrees Celsius (1 degree Fahrenheit). Some
>>> >> 72 percent of the species migrated downhill during that time,
>>> >> compared
>>> >> with 28 percent marching uphill.

>>> >> When the team looked for explanations, they found that the plant
>>> >> species appeared to be extending their habitat downhill to altitudes
>>> >> where water is more prevalent, even in the face of an additional,
>>> >> slight increases in the temperatures their new, lower locations
>>> >> presented.

>>> >> [ . . . ]

>>> >>http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2011/0121/Plants-global-warming-…

>>> >Good one. Alarmists bitched about plants goinbg further up, and the
>>> >reality is the opposite. They were wrong….. again……still……

>>> Bitch about plants going further up?Not that I recall.
>>> Come on now.You have been told that CO2 in spite of being necessary
>>> for plant growth, was of no use if there was no water.How many times
>>> has this been pointed out to you when the CO2 as plant food was
>>> mentioned.Did you forget already Tundy?

>>But what when all the other requirements are there. When there is
>>water and sun and heat and more co2. It can only be a good thing then,
>>right? It is a good thing for plants and agriculture in northern
>>climates.
> Yes except that all plants do not benefit from additional CO2.You know
> this since it has been pointed out before.

Really?
Which ones?

Warmest Regards

B0nz0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."
Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

"If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it’s not going to tip
now due to mankind. The planet has a natural thermostat"
Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, Professor of Meteorology MIT,
Former IPCC Lead Author

"It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you
have, or how many of you there are, and certainly not how many papers your
side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is
wrong. Period."
Professor Richard Feynman, Nobel Laureate in Physics

"A core problem is that science has given way to ideology. The scientific
method has been dispensed with, or abused, to serve the myth of man-made
global warming."
"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Computer models are built in an almost backwards fashion: The goal is to
show evidence of AGW, and the "scientists" go to work to produce such a
result. When even these models fail to show what advocates want, the data
and interpretations are "fudged" to bring about the desired result"
"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Ocean acidification looks suspiciously like a back-up plan by the
environmental pressure groups in case the climate fails to warm: another try
at condemning fossil fuels!"
http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/threat-ocean-acidification-great…

Before attacking hypothetical problems, let us first solve the real problems
that threaten humanity. One single water pump at an equivalent cost of a
couple of solar panels can indeed spare hundreds of Sahel women the daily
journey to the spring and spare many infections and lives.
Martin De Vlieghere, philosopher

"The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that
it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of
mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible."
Bertrand Russell

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The Great ***Climate Change*** Taxpayer Rip-Off of 2011

The Great ‘Climate Change’ Taxpayer Rip-Off of 2011
 By Alan Caruba  Sunday, January 16, 2011
Unless I am seriously mistaken or misinformed, the rate of unemployment
in the U.S. remains high and the foreclosure rate on homes is
approaching the level of the Depression years. Two major bond rating
companies, Moody’s and Standard and Poor’s just warned that, if the
federal government doesn’t stop spending and borrowing, America’s
Triple-A highest ranking will be down-graded.

Along with all the other things in the federal budget wish list for 2011
are millions to be spent on climate change.

It helps to understand how obscene this is if you pause to consider (1)
there is not one damn thing anyone can do about climate change, (2)
climate change has been researched and studied since the late 1980s,
enough to fill an entire wing of the Congressional Library to hold all
the reports, and (3) the only climate change Americans really need to
know about is what the weather will be tomorrow.

With a tip of the hat to Climatequotes.com and the American Association
for the Advancement of Science’s (AAAS) report on "research development,
fiscal year 2011", let me share just a few of the ways the Obama
administration intends to squander your money.

The magic number is $2,481,000 and it represents specific amounts
devoted to "climate change" research or other programs requested for the
2011 budgets by an alphabet soup of federal agencies that include the
Environmental Protection Agency, NASA, Department of Energy (DOE),
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), National Science
Foundation (NSF), Department of the Interior (DOI), and the Department
of Agriculture (DOA).

The figures cited all come from chapter 15 of the AAAS report and you
can access it via Climatequotes.com

NOAA’s total budget request is for $5.6 billion, an increase of 17%. It
intends to devote $437 million for climate research funding, an increase
of $77 million over last year.

"Climate Change Education" It’s not education, it’s indoctrination
Over at the National Science Foundation (NSF), its budget of $7.4
billion (that’s a lot of science!) includes a request for $480 million
for Atmospheric and Earth Sciences, $765.5 million for NSF’s Science,
Engineering and Education for Sustainability program and $19 million for
a joint program with DOE "to promote education in clean energy research.
An additional $10 million would fund "Climate Change Education" in the
nation’s schools. It’s not education, it’s indoctrination.

The Department of Energy which currently is projecting that permits for
deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico won’t be forthcoming until,
maybe, June. DOE seems oblivious to the fact that the price of oil is
set to hit $100 a barrel and higher costs will hit everyone driving
anything using gasoline or diesel fuel. Fuel oil prices will rise and
any business that uses oil or anything made with oil will be forced to
raise its prices. In short, everything.

DOE, however, is in no hurry and, of course, the Obama administration is
dead set against ANWR or off-shore exploration and extraction of the
BILLIONS of barrels of crude oil projected to exist.

However, DOE is set to receive $28.4 billion in 2011 and that includes
$4.6 billion for research and development in its Office of Science and
$2.4 billion for energy research and development. Its Office of
Biological and Environmental Research is devoted to atmospheric science,
including "climate modeling", which would be allocated $627 million.
Last time I checked, oil, coal, and natural gas were not found in the
"atmosphere", but rather were extracted from deep within the Earth.

The entire global warming hoax was and is based on "climate modeling"
The entire global warming hoax was and is based on "climate modeling",
all of which consistently found that the Earth was warming at an
alarming rate. Except that the Earth is NOT warming. It has been cooling
since 1998. And DOE intends to waste $627 million on more modeling. It
is worth noting that the most sophisticated models of the National
Weather Bureau still cannot predict with any confidence what the
weather-not the climate-will be next week.

The Environmental Protection Agency, gearing up to regulate all
utilities that produce carbon dioxide and all other industries that do
the same, has zero authorization to do so under the Clean Air Act. It is
CO2 that is designated by the warmists as the chief culprit for the
global warming that is NOT happening.

Despite this, EPA has requested $169 million "to reduce greenhouse gas
emissions", with $43.5 million in new funding for "regulatory efforts to
reduce greenhouse gas emissions" through the Clean Air Act. And it wants
$22 million for its Global Change Research Program. It is time to shut
down this rogue agency before it totally destroys the economy.

Even the Department of Agriculture wants $159 million for "climate
change research", an increase of 42% and $179 million for renewable
energy, to "help farmers." Farmers are heavy users of fossil fuels to
operate the machinery needed to till, plant, and harvest crops. They
need reliable energy, not "renewable" energy.

The Recovery Act of 2009 has managed to blow more than $600 million on
climate change research and billions on greenhouse gas mitigation.

Tip of the ‘climate change’ rip-off in terms of billions wasted or soon
to be wasted on "research"
This is just the tip of the ‘climate change’ rip-off in terms of
billions wasted or soon to be wasted on "research" that can only be
deemed an obscene diversion of taxpayer money that will not benefit a
single taxpayer, generate any new jobs except for those in government
agencies, and further bankrupt a bankrupted nation about to have its
credit rating reduced.

The "scientists", "regulators", and "administrators" feasting off this
federal largess should be handed a shovel to earn a living on one of
those "shovel ready" projects we were told about.

Beyond that, if Congress was really intent on cutting back on spending,
they could begin by defunding or shutting down the Environmental
Protection Agency, the Department of Energy, and all the other federal
grifters with their snouts rooting around in the climate change trough.

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Yes Cate, The Warmie Whackos Were, As Usual, Wrong Again For The Umpteenth Time, And You Can Now Wash Your Hair Again

Yes Cate, The Warmie Whackos Were Wrong Again For TheUmpteenth Time, And You
Can Now Wash Your Hair Again

Jan 24 2011

These floods will have a silver lining for Cate Blanchett, who can at last
reach for the Sunsilk again. Not like four years ago:

THE drought has hit so hard that even one of the world’s most glamorous
women is doing it tough, resorting to not washing her hair.

Oscar-winning actress and strident warmist Cate Blanchett yesterday visited
drought-ravaged North Pine Dam, north of Brisbane, to promote a new
Australian Conservation Foundation online campaign whoonearthcares.com.

"I actually have little races with myself, thinking ‘Oh no, I’m not washing
my hair. I only need to have a two-minute shower’," Blanchett revealed.

Blanchett and Australian Conservation Foundation director Don Henry visited
the dam – presently at just 16 per cent of capacity – to see the effects of
the drought and to share her passionate views about climate change.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/cate-plays-her-part-for-planet/sto…

Warmest Regards

B0nz0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

"If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it’s not going to tip
now due to mankind. The planet has a natural thermostat"

Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, Professor of Meteorology MIT,
Former IPCC Lead Author

"It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you
have, or how many of you there are, and certainly not how many papers your
side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is
wrong. Period."

Professor Richard Feynman, Nobel Laureate in Physics

"A core problem is that science has given way to ideology. The scientific
method has been dispensed with, or abused, to serve the myth of man-made
global warming."

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Computer models are built in an almost backwards fashion: The goal is to
show evidence of AGW, and the "scientists" go to work to produce such a
result. When even these models fail to show what advocates want, the data
and interpretations are "fudged" to bring about the desired result"

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Ocean acidification looks suspiciously like a back-up plan by the
environmental pressure groups in case the climate fails to warm: another try
at condemning fossil fuels!"

http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/threat-ocean-acidification-great…

Before attacking hypothetical problems, let us first solve the real problems
that threaten humanity. One single water pump at an equivalent cost of a
couple of solar panels can indeed spare hundreds of Sahel women the daily
journey to the spring and spare many infections and lives.

Martin De Vlieghere, philosopher

"The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that
it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of
mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible."

Bertrand Russell

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A Good Question. Any Warmist Takers?

A Good Question

Any Warmist Takers?

WHY is there a statistically highly significant systematic inverse
relationship between the number of stations they selected for ‘official’ use
and the average temperatures resulting?

What average temperature would result from the 62% of stations they removed
since around the 1960s – which had the coldest temperature averages and the
highest number of stations – up to the present decade – which is officially
the warmest and has the least number of stations?

Warmest Regards

B0nz0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

"If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it’s not going to tip
now due to mankind. The planet has a natural thermostat"

Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, Professor of Meteorology MIT,
Former IPCC Lead Author

"It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you
have, or how many of you there are, and certainly not how many papers your
side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is
wrong. Period."

Professor Richard Feynman, Nobel Laureate in Physics

"A core problem is that science has given way to ideology. The scientific
method has been dispensed with, or abused, to serve the myth of man-made
global warming."

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Computer models are built in an almost backwards fashion: The goal is to
show evidence of AGW, and the "scientists" go to work to produce such a
result. When even these models fail to show what advocates want, the data
and interpretations are "fudged" to bring about the desired result"

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Ocean acidification looks suspiciously like a back-up plan by the
environmental pressure groups in case the climate fails to warm: another try
at condemning fossil fuels!"

http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/threat-ocean-acidification-great…

Before attacking hypothetical problems, let us first solve the real problems
that threaten humanity. One single water pump at an equivalent cost of a
couple of solar panels can indeed spare hundreds of Sahel women the daily
journey to the spring and spare many infections and lives.

Martin De Vlieghere, philosopher

"The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that
it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of
mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible."

Bertrand Russell

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Oh The Irony. Meeting To "Save" The Murray From Drying Postponed Due To Flooding!

Oh The Irony. Meeting To Save The Murray From Drying Postponed Due To
Flooding!

Consider the Murray saved already!

Jan 20 2011

The Gillard Government plans to stop the Murray from running dry in this
period of climate change by taking irrigation water from farmers. But its
public consultations have been disrupted by an unforseen change in the
climate:

The committee, which is focusing on the socio-economic impacts of the
Murray-Darling Basin Authority’s ”Guide to the Proposed Basin Plan”, heard
from a number of organisations and individuals during yesterday’s hearing at
Mildura.

The Swan Hill hearing was postponed ”due to flooding in Victoria” …

I’d say that flooding should postpone more than a single hearing of that
committee.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2011/01/20/284325_latest-new…

Warmest Regards

B0nz0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

"If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it’s not going to tip
now due to mankind. The planet has a natural thermostat"

Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, Professor of Meteorology MIT,
Former IPCC Lead Author

"It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you
have, or how many of you there are, and certainly not how many papers your
side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is
wrong. Period."

Professor Richard Feynman, Nobel Laureate in Physics

"A core problem is that science has given way to ideology. The scientific
method has been dispensed with, or abused, to serve the myth of man-made
global warming."

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Computer models are built in an almost backwards fashion: The goal is to
show evidence of AGW, and the "scientists" go to work to produce such a
result. When even these models fail to show what advocates want, the data
and interpretations are "fudged" to bring about the desired result"

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Ocean acidification looks suspiciously like a back-up plan by the
environmental pressure groups in case the climate fails to warm: another try
at condemning fossil fuels!"

http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/threat-ocean-acidification-great…

Before attacking hypothetical problems, let us first solve the real problems
that threaten humanity. One single water pump at an equivalent cost of a
couple of solar panels can indeed spare hundreds of Sahel women the daily
journey to the spring and spare many infections and lives.

Martin De Vlieghere, philosopher

"The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that
it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of
mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible."

Bertrand Russell

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Re: Wind powers ahead

"Giga2" <"Giga2" <just(removetheseandaddmatthe end)ho…@yahoo.co> wrote in
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> Even climate change sceptics who bemoan the investment in renewable
> technologies cannot argue that it has been a good year for wind energy,
> particularly in the UK.

ROTFLMAO

Shock. Shivering Britain Realises Wind Power Needs Wind To Work

Wind farms becalmed just when needed the most

January 4 2011

Only now does this problem occur to them?

Wind farms in Britain generated practically no electricity during the recent
cold spell, raising fresh concerns about whether they could be relied upon
to meet the country’s energy needs.

Despite high demand for electricity as people shivered at home over
Christmas, most of the 3,000 wind turbines around Britain stood still due to
a lack of wind.

Even yesterday , when conditions were slightly breezier, wind farms
generated just 1.8 per cent of the nation’s electricity – less than a third
of usual levels.

The failure of wind farms to function at full tilt during December forced
energy suppliers to rely on coal-fired power stations to keep the lights
on – meaning more greenhouse gases were produced.

Experts feared that as the Government moved towards a target of generating
30 per cent of electricity from wind – while closing gas and coal-fired
power stations – cold, still winters could cause a problem in the future.

These experts realise only now that the when the wind don’t blow, the power
won’t flow?

Next they might even start worrying that solar power won’t work in the dark.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/8234616/Wind-farms-…

Warmest Regards

B0nz0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

"If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it’s not going to tip
now due to mankind. The planet has a natural thermostat"

Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, Professor of Meteorology MIT,
Former IPCC Lead Author

"It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you
have, or how many of you there are, and certainly not how many papers your
side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is
wrong. Period."

Professor Richard Feynman, Nobel Laureate in Physics

"A core problem is that science has given way to ideology. The scientific
method has been dispensed with, or abused, to serve the myth of man-made
global warming."

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Computer models are built in an almost backwards fashion: The goal is to
show evidence of AGW, and the "scientists" go to work to produce such a
result. When even these models fail to show what advocates want, the data
and interpretations are "fudged" to bring about the desired result"

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips

"Ocean acidification looks suspiciously like a back-up plan by the
environmental pressure groups in case the climate fails to warm: another try
at condemning fossil fuels!"

http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/threat-ocean-acidification-great…

Before attacking hypothetical problems, let us first solve the real problems
that threaten humanity. One single water pump at an equivalent cost of a
couple of solar panels can indeed spare hundreds of Sahel women the daily
journey to the spring and spare many infections and lives.

Martin De Vlieghere, philosopher

"The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that
it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of
mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible."

Bertrand Russell

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